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		<title>By: HTML Email Client - PDAPhoneHome.com</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/11/the-truth-about-html-e-mail-on-windows-mobile-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-23703</link>
		<dc:creator>HTML Email Client - PDAPhoneHome.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mobile html support here:  New Enterprise Features for Windows Mobile 6 and Exchange Server 2007  Welcome to the Funcave The Truth About HTML E-mail On Windows Mobile 6  Welcome to the Funcave Enter The WiPhone  I see re-reading this it does also actually work if you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: someonevoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>someonevoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,
Did you know that both iPhone and iPod Touch support HTML email with Exchange 2003 Server? I&#039;ve tried myself with an iPod touch on a Exchange 2003 Server and got HTML email, while on a win mo 6.1 with the same exact server I wasn&#039;t able to get anything but plain old text.

How did Apple do it and Microsoft cannot do it?
Funny, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,<br />
Did you know that both iPhone and iPod Touch support HTML email with Exchange 2003 Server? I&#8217;ve tried myself with an iPod touch on a Exchange 2003 Server and got HTML email, while on a win mo 6.1 with the same exact server I wasn&#8217;t able to get anything but plain old text.</p>
<p>How did Apple do it and Microsoft cannot do it?<br />
Funny, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: lynam</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oups! I meant....
&quot;...Exchange 2003 will be history!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oups! I meant&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;Exchange 2003 will be history!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lynam</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/11/the-truth-about-html-e-mail-on-windows-mobile-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-23635</link>
		<dc:creator>lynam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick:

I think the iPhone simply uses WebDAV (like OWA does) to talk with the Exchange FE. When querying exchange to get the message, you can choose if you want to get the &quot;textDescription&quot; property or the &quot;htmlDescription&quot; property.

I don&#039;t see any other reason apart from bandwidth to make Microsoft decides we will need. This is what happen when you can&#039;t see more than 2 inch ahead your nose.

I wonder how hard would it be write a connector to use... i&#039;m thinking of doing it since maybe 2 year and by the time I get the time to start it, Exchange 2007 will be history!!!

-lynam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick:</p>
<p>I think the iPhone simply uses WebDAV (like OWA does) to talk with the Exchange FE. When querying exchange to get the message, you can choose if you want to get the &#8220;textDescription&#8221; property or the &#8220;htmlDescription&#8221; property.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any other reason apart from bandwidth to make Microsoft decides we will need. This is what happen when you can&#8217;t see more than 2 inch ahead your nose.</p>
<p>I wonder how hard would it be write a connector to use&#8230; i&#8217;m thinking of doing it since maybe 2 year and by the time I get the time to start it, Exchange 2007 will be history!!!</p>
<p>-lynam</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If what Vlad is saying is true (where the server controls the format of the message), how is it the iPhones are pulling HTML from emails using the same ActiveSync protocol?  Furthermore, how is it when you forward an html email thats been converted to text in WM6, the html formatting remains intact?

I&#039;m wondering if its possible to fake the server response to whatever Exchange 2007 reponds with, or fake the handheld into thinking its syncing over a different medium than OTA.  Clearly the phone supports it, but Microsoft is crippling it somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what Vlad is saying is true (where the server controls the format of the message), how is it the iPhones are pulling HTML from emails using the same ActiveSync protocol?  Furthermore, how is it when you forward an html email thats been converted to text in WM6, the html formatting remains intact?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if its possible to fake the server response to whatever Exchange 2007 reponds with, or fake the handheld into thinking its syncing over a different medium than OTA.  Clearly the phone supports it, but Microsoft is crippling it somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: VMdoug</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMdoug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good discussion here. I&#039;ve been trying to find any type of settings for HTML emails on Exchange 2003 ActiveSync. The reason being is that I have a Palm Pre and it appears to have issues &quot;re-rendering&quot; reply emails in HTML, it looses all formatting.

So, from what I can tell, the Pre tries to receive the email as HTML from ActiveSync but can&#039;t, it displays it in plain text. When you reply to the email, it tries again to use HTML formatting but fails and end up removing all formatting and running all the words of the original emails together.

This issue on the Palm Pre does not affect everyone, just some people. I&#039;m trying to figure out if it&#039;s an issue with the Pre or ActiveSync. Is there a way to configure what version of HTML ActiveSync uses? That&#039;s one of the only things I can think of now.

We use Exchange 2003. The iPhones in our organization work fine (full HTML formatting as @Shay indicated). WinMo 6.x receive in plain text and Palm Pre&#039;s receive in plain text but reply in HTML w/ no formatting.

I&#039;m trying to work with Palm on this issue as it looks terrible with I reply to an HTML formatting email. The interesting thing is that if someone sends me an email that&#039;s been entirely converted to plain text, my reply works just fine.

Any thoughts or ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good discussion here. I&#8217;ve been trying to find any type of settings for HTML emails on Exchange 2003 ActiveSync. The reason being is that I have a Palm Pre and it appears to have issues &#8220;re-rendering&#8221; reply emails in HTML, it looses all formatting.</p>
<p>So, from what I can tell, the Pre tries to receive the email as HTML from ActiveSync but can&#8217;t, it displays it in plain text. When you reply to the email, it tries again to use HTML formatting but fails and end up removing all formatting and running all the words of the original emails together.</p>
<p>This issue on the Palm Pre does not affect everyone, just some people. I&#8217;m trying to figure out if it&#8217;s an issue with the Pre or ActiveSync. Is there a way to configure what version of HTML ActiveSync uses? That&#8217;s one of the only things I can think of now.</p>
<p>We use Exchange 2003. The iPhones in our organization work fine (full HTML formatting as @Shay indicated). WinMo 6.x receive in plain text and Palm Pre&#8217;s receive in plain text but reply in HTML w/ no formatting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to work with Palm on this issue as it looks terrible with I reply to an HTML formatting email. The interesting thing is that if someone sends me an email that&#8217;s been entirely converted to plain text, my reply works just fine.</p>
<p>Any thoughts or ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: bubba_omnia</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubba_omnia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why oh Why Microsoft ....
So I was playing around.....
Why is it that when a mail is pulled to my omnia from exchange 2003 it comes in &#039;Plain Text&#039; but if the same mail is &#039;forwarded&#039; from the phone back to my same exchange account on the phone it comes up with HTML</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why oh Why Microsoft &#8230;.<br />
So I was playing around&#8230;..<br />
Why is it that when a mail is pulled to my omnia from exchange 2003 it comes in &#8216;Plain Text&#8217; but if the same mail is &#8216;forwarded&#8217; from the phone back to my same exchange account on the phone it comes up with HTML</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/11/the-truth-about-html-e-mail-on-windows-mobile-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-23031</link>
		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris!
I&#039;ve &quot;known&quot; for a while that Exchange Server 2007 is required for HTML email, and my company uses Exchange 2003. However today my company&#039;s IT manager set-up corporate email on an iPhone belonging to one of my colleagues (1st iPhone on our company network), and SURPRISE, he has HTML email.
So I rushed to search the web again, and came across this post &amp; discussion with the valuable explanation. But it just makes it more annoying to think that a non-Microsoft device/client can get a feature out of a Microsoft server, that a Microsoft client cannot!
Any news on this? Any plans for a fix by Microsoft that you know of?
Thanks,
- Shay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris!<br />
I&#8217;ve &#8220;known&#8221; for a while that Exchange Server 2007 is required for HTML email, and my company uses Exchange 2003. However today my company&#8217;s IT manager set-up corporate email on an iPhone belonging to one of my colleagues (1st iPhone on our company network), and SURPRISE, he has HTML email.<br />
So I rushed to search the web again, and came across this post &amp; discussion with the valuable explanation. But it just makes it more annoying to think that a non-Microsoft device/client can get a feature out of a Microsoft server, that a Microsoft client cannot!<br />
Any news on this? Any plans for a fix by Microsoft that you know of?<br />
Thanks,<br />
- Shay</p>
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		<title>By: HTC Touch HD - Pagina 54 - Pocketinfo forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>HTC Touch HD - Pagina 54 - Pocketinfo forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dan graag!     Volgens mij hebben we gewoon pech. Na wat verder zoeken kwam ik deze site tegen: welcome to the funcave » The Truth About HTML E-mail On Windows Mobile 6  Of het allemaal klopt weet ik niet, maar het is wel een van de weinige plekken waar e.e.a. wordt [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone - First Impressions &#171; :: ROSSCIFY BLOG</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/11/the-truth-about-html-e-mail-on-windows-mobile-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-18723</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone - First Impressions &#171; :: ROSSCIFY BLOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When Windows Mobile 6 came out, one of the new features was the ability to have HTML emails, well HTML emails were only available if the Exchange server was running Exchange 2007. With us still using Exchange 2003 at work, this was something that we had to live without. But the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When Windows Mobile 6 came out, one of the new features was the ability to have HTML emails, well HTML emails were only available if the Exchange server was running Exchange 2007. With us still using Exchange 2003 at work, this was something that we had to live without. But the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: welcome to the funcave &#187; Save A Tree At WPC With Windows Mobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>welcome to the funcave &#187; Save A Tree At WPC With Windows Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re still using Exchange 2003 like I am, well then you should prolly know the truth about HTML e-mail using Windows Mobile 6 and Exchange [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&rsquo;re still using Exchange 2003 like I am, well then you should prolly know the truth about HTML e-mail using Windows Mobile 6 and Exchange [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/11/the-truth-about-html-e-mail-on-windows-mobile-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-11438</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Vlad...

Thanks for the EAS technical deep-dive. FTR, I totally agree with you re: Exchange &amp; Outlook right now. Pathetic.

@ Tim...

You&#039;ll see a similar issue of both client and server updates being required for certain feature support on other mobile platforms. Blackberry immediately leaps to ming. The only reason I even blogged this HTML over EAS/Direct Push item is the conflicting/unclear info from MS regarding the true HTML e-mail capabilities of WM6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Vlad&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the EAS technical deep-dive. FTR, I totally agree with you re: Exchange &#038; Outlook right now. Pathetic.</p>
<p>@ Tim&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll see a similar issue of both client and server updates being required for certain feature support on other mobile platforms. Blackberry immediately leaps to ming. The only reason I even blogged this HTML over EAS/Direct Push item is the conflicting/unclear info from MS regarding the true HTML e-mail capabilities of WM6.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Mazek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad Mazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a correction on the content type and dumb protocols I mentioned above -- when a pop3 client pulls down a message it just sends the RETR command to the server along with the message it wants to pull down. The message is printed, top to bottom along with any MIME/attachments, etc. You can restrict how many lines are sent down as well.

So for POP3 and IMAP, it is on the client to parse the message. You can do it out of a telnet session:

telnet mailserver 110
user vlad
pass mypass
retr 1



Client interprets the formating, bang.

With ActiveSync something else happens.

In 2003, the PocketPC accesses the server like this:

POST /Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync?User=vlad&amp;
DeviceId=blah&amp;DeviceType=PocketPC&amp;Cmd=Sync

and the server looks at that and says: Here is the plain text content, whereas it doesn&#039;t do the same for the desktop tethered activesync connections.

-Vlad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a correction on the content type and dumb protocols I mentioned above &#8212; when a pop3 client pulls down a message it just sends the RETR command to the server along with the message it wants to pull down. The message is printed, top to bottom along with any MIME/attachments, etc. You can restrict how many lines are sent down as well.</p>
<p>So for POP3 and IMAP, it is on the client to parse the message. You can do it out of a telnet session:</p>
<p>telnet mailserver 110<br />
user vlad<br />
pass mypass<br />
retr 1</p>
<p>Client interprets the formating, bang.</p>
<p>With ActiveSync something else happens.</p>
<p>In 2003, the PocketPC accesses the server like this:</p>
<p>POST /Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync?User=vlad&amp;<br />
DeviceId=blah&amp;DeviceType=PocketPC&amp;Cmd=Sync</p>
<p>and the server looks at that and says: Here is the plain text content, whereas it doesn&#8217;t do the same for the desktop tethered activesync connections.</p>
<p>-Vlad</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Mazek</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/2007/11/the-truth-about-html-e-mail-on-windows-mobile-6.html/comment-page-1#comment-11432</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad Mazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Actually, this is an Exchange 2007 CAS &quot;feature&quot;; CAS or Client Access Server is the new Exchange 2007 frontend for client access that runs services like pop3, imap, activesync, etc.

The 2003 server-based activesync is set to push text mail down for PocketPC&#039;s regardless of the version because it simply doesn&#039;t check for the capabilities. The 2007 server-based activesync is slightly more evolved than that, thus the ability to send down correct data, in correct format, with correct permissions and IRM stuff like do not forward. For &quot;dumb&quot; protocols the content type doesn&#039;t matter, it just retrieves the message and parses it on the device just like every other POP3 or IMAP client.

Thats all there is to it, there is no bogeyman. Sometimes advanced development requires work on both the server and the client and those are separate teams - so they both need to be in step with one another. In 2003 they were not, in 2007 they are. 

I mean, if you want to complain about a lack of common sense, take a look at Exchange-Outlook combo.

-Vlad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Actually, this is an Exchange 2007 CAS &#8220;feature&#8221;; CAS or Client Access Server is the new Exchange 2007 frontend for client access that runs services like pop3, imap, activesync, etc.</p>
<p>The 2003 server-based activesync is set to push text mail down for PocketPC&#8217;s regardless of the version because it simply doesn&#8217;t check for the capabilities. The 2007 server-based activesync is slightly more evolved than that, thus the ability to send down correct data, in correct format, with correct permissions and IRM stuff like do not forward. For &#8220;dumb&#8221; protocols the content type doesn&#8217;t matter, it just retrieves the message and parses it on the device just like every other POP3 or IMAP client.</p>
<p>Thats all there is to it, there is no bogeyman. Sometimes advanced development requires work on both the server and the client and those are separate teams &#8211; so they both need to be in step with one another. In 2003 they were not, in 2007 they are. </p>
<p>I mean, if you want to complain about a lack of common sense, take a look at Exchange-Outlook combo.</p>
<p>-Vlad</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This MIA HTML OTA has to be by design. Probably a Friday afternoon or Monday morning vote in the name of bandwidth. What other reason could their possibly be?

-Tim Barrett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This MIA HTML OTA has to be by design. Probably a Friday afternoon or Monday morning vote in the name of bandwidth. What other reason could their possibly be?</p>
<p>-Tim Barrett</p>
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		<title>By: Onno ter Wisscha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onno ter Wisscha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding IMAP on Windows Mobile 6:
it&#039;s crippled by Microsoft (in order to push their ActiveSync solution).
The whole idea behind IMAP is that you have a continuous connection. On most mobile phones this results in a Blackberry-like pushmail experience.
Not so on WM6 devices.
Here you can only set a schedule for synching your IMAP folders every once in a while.
On the positive side: HTML does come through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding IMAP on Windows Mobile 6:<br />
it&#8217;s crippled by Microsoft (in order to push their ActiveSync solution).<br />
The whole idea behind IMAP is that you have a continuous connection. On most mobile phones this results in a Blackberry-like pushmail experience.<br />
Not so on WM6 devices.<br />
Here you can only set a schedule for synching your IMAP folders every once in a while.<br />
On the positive side: HTML does come through.</p>
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